Explain this to me Quran Verse 7:172
Surah Al-A'raf (7:172):
"And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam—from their loins—their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], 'Am I not your Lord?' They said, 'Yes, we have testified.' Lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection, 'Indeed, we were of this unaware.'"
This verse refers to a pre-earthly event known as the "Covenant of Alast" (Mithaq), where God took a testimony from the souls of all human beings before they were born. It is described as a moment when every soul acknowledged God as their Creator and Sustainer. The essence of the verse is that humanity, in its primordial state, was made aware of God's existence and lordship.
Explanation:
- Primordial Covenant: According to Islamic tradition, this event symbolizes a spiritual bond between God and all humans before they came into existence on Earth. Each soul testified that God is their Lord, affirming a deep, intrinsic awareness of God's presence.
- Responsibility of Awareness: This verse reminds humans that they have an innate knowledge of God, making them accountable for recognizing and worshipping Him during their earthly lives. It counters any claims on the Day of Judgment that people were unaware of their responsibility to follow God.
- Fitrah (Natural Disposition): This verse ties into the Islamic concept of fitrah, which is the natural disposition of every human being towards believing in one God. It means that everyone has an inherent inclination towards recognizing God's existence, even if it's forgotten or covered by societal influences over time.
In summary, 7:172 teaches that humans are born with an inherent awareness of God, and this knowledge serves as the foundation of their responsibility to seek, recognize, and worship Him.
You said:
but 7:172 says from the children of Adam—from their loins—their descendants and made them testify of themselves......... Nothing about pre-earthly event
You are correct that the verse itself does not explicitly mention a "pre-earthly event" in clear terms. Let's clarify the verse and its interpretation based on the wording:
In Quran 7:172, the verse states that God took a testimony from the descendants of Adam, asking them to affirm His lordship. This event is described as a moment when God made the descendants of Adam (human beings) testify about themselves, acknowledging Him as their Lord. The language used in the verse—"from the children of Adam, from their loins"—suggests that God gathered all of humanity at some point and made them affirm His oneness.
Traditional Interpretation:
- Primordial Event: While the verse doesn't directly use the term "pre-earthly" or explain when this event took place in time, classical Islamic scholars have interpreted it as a moment that occurred before human beings came into physical existence on Earth. The phrase "from their loins" has been understood to indicate that this testimony was taken from the souls of all humans before they were born, in a spiritual sense.
- Symbolic Language: "From their loins" is often interpreted metaphorically to mean that God took this testimony from the future descendants of Adam, not necessarily in a physical sense but as souls or in a pre-birth state of existence.
- Accountability: The purpose of this covenant or testimony is to ensure that on the Day of Judgment, humans cannot claim ignorance of God's existence or their responsibilities toward Him.
What the Verse Says:
- The verse describes a testimony of the descendants of Adam, meaning all human beings, and their acknowledgment of God’s lordship.
- It does not explicitly mention when this testimony was taken but implies that all human beings inherently have a recognition of God. This understanding is why Islamic tradition considers it to have happened before physical birth.
The Pre-Earthly Interpretation:
This understanding is drawn from broader Islamic theology and is supported by prophetic traditions (ahadith). Scholars and commentators, like Ibn Kathir and others, explain that this verse refers to a spiritual or metaphysical event where souls were gathered and testified to God's oneness before their earthly life began.
So, while the verse itself doesn't directly state "pre-earthly," this understanding comes from traditional exegesis, which interprets the verse as describing a moment outside of our worldly, physical experience.
This concept ties into the broader Islamic view that humans have a natural inclination (fitrah) toward recognizing and worshiping God, and this verse is seen as evidence of that innate awareness.
You said:
You wrote ......from the children of Adam, from their loins"—suggests that God gathered all of humanity at some point and made them affirm His oneness.......me: how could God gather all human they not yet born?
Your question touches on an important point of interpretation. How could God gather all humans before they were born? Here's how this concept is understood in Islamic theology:
Spiritual Realm, Not Physical
When Quran 7:172 says God took a covenant from the children of Adam "from their loins" and made them testify about themselves, it's not referring to a physical gathering in the sense of bodies standing before God. Rather, it refers to a spiritual event. Islamic scholars explain that this occurred in the realm of souls, before humans were born into this physical world.
In this view:
- Souls Before Birth: Islamic belief holds that human souls were created before their physical bodies, and in that spiritual realm, God made all human souls acknowledge Him as their Lord. This is often referred to as the "primordial covenant" or Al-Mithaq.
- Testimony of Souls: The phrase "from their loins" is metaphorical, suggesting that future generations (the descendants of Adam) were spiritually present when this testimony was taken. It implies a kind of pre-earthly awareness, where all souls are brought together before being sent into physical existence.
Purpose of the Covenant
The purpose of this covenant is that humans cannot claim ignorance of God’s existence on the Day of Judgment. It establishes that humans have an innate recognition of God, even if they forget or deny it in this worldly life.
Key Points of Understanding:
- Spiritual Gathering: The gathering described in Quran 7:172 happened in a metaphysical realm, not in a physical sense. All human souls were present before they came into this world.
- Metaphor of "Loins": "From their loins" means from the descendants of Adam (future generations), but it is understood spiritually rather than physically.
- Innate Recognition (Fitrah): The event reflects the Islamic belief in the concept of fitrah—the natural disposition to recognize and worship God, which is imprinted in every human soul.
This spiritual understanding allows for the idea that God could "gather" souls before their physical birth, outside of our usual experience of time and space.
Evolution Of Adam : Similarity Between Adam And Jesus
Quran 23:12 And certainly did We create man from an extract of clay.
Quran 23:13 Then placed him as a drop (of seed) in a safe lodging ( mother womb )
Quran 23:14 Then We made the seed (DNA) a clot, then We made the clot a lump of flesh,
then We made (in) the lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones
with flesh, then We caused it to grow into >>> another CREATION <<<so blessed
be Allah, the best of the creators.
71:14 And indeed He has created you through various stages
71:17 Afterwards He will return you into it (the earth), and bring you forth (again on the Day of Resurrection)?
Quran 3:59 Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allāh is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
2:31 And He taught Adam the names - all of them. ( Language ) Then He showed them to the
angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful."
3:48 And He will teach him ( Jesus ) the Scripture and wisdom, and the Torah and the Gospel,
19:29-30 So she pointed to Jesus They said, "How can we speak to one who is in the cradle a child?"
[Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet.
2:31 And He taught Adam the names ( Language ) all of them. Then He showed them to the
angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful."
2:33 He said, "O Adam, inform them of their names." And when he had informed
them of their names, He said, "Did I not tell you that I know the unseen
[aspects] of the heavens and the earth? And I know what you reveal and
what you have concealed."
4:1 O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person
(Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from
them both He created many men and women and fear God by whom you demand one of another, and the wombs; surely God ever watches over you.
Adam and Jesus both had mother but did not have father
Good Hindu Christian Muslim Go To Heaven read 2:62
In The Quran Age Of Marriage is 18 Years NOT 6 read Quran 4:6
Quran 4:6 And take test orphans (as regards their intelligence) until they reach the age
of marriage; if then you find sound judgement in them, release their
property to them,.........."
6:152 And do not approach the property of the orphan except in the best manner
until he attains his maturity, and give full measure and weight with
justice-- We do not impose on any soul a duty except to the extent of
its ability; and when you speak, then be just though it be (against) a
relative, and fulfill Allah's covenant; this He has enjoined you with
that you may be mindful;
Tell me that in what age would you give orphan to their property back to them ? ( that is marriageable age )
Note: Age of marriage is when an individual reaches > intellectual
and physical maturity < to understand and manage their own affairs.
Does " 6 '' years old child makes > sound judgement < and decide that i am ready to marry now ?
How many Prophet's companions married 6 years old girl back then ?
Did the Prophet let his daughter marry when she was 6 years old girl ?
I asked the Prophet, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Should the women be asked for their consent to their
marriage?" He said, "Yes." ............." "Sahih al-Bukhari 6946
Did the 6 years old Aisha gave consents to marrying the Prophet ?
The Prophet married Aisha without her consent ?
Why didn't the Prophet waited 3 more years for marriage until Aisha reach 9 years of age ?
Prophet didn't have a patient ?
This Hadith is an insult to the Prophet of Allah but not to you Muslim
Do you get angry when people say that your prophet married a 6 years old child ?
Would you allow your 6 years old daughter or sister to marry?
Would you marry a 6 years old child ?
A 6 years old is a child or a grown woman ?
Quran 4:6 Does NOT allow Prophet Muhammad to marry 6 years old child
PROPHET WAS NOT A CHILD MOLESTER AS HADITH SAYS
Kolkata Brutal Rape Case—Criminal is Hindu
Nirbhaya Brutal Rape Case—Criminals were Hindu
BilkisBanu Brutal Rape Case—Criminals were Hindu
Hathras Brutal Rape Case—Criminals were Hindu
Ankita Bhandari—Criminals are Hindu
Manipur Rape Cases—Criminals were Hindu
Prajwal Revanna—Raped and molested 1000s of women was Hindu
Rape Convict Asaram is Hindu
Rape Convict Ram Rahim is Hindu
Kasham = witness = time
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